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  • Leader Dynamics T2 MK5

    also partly owned by Australian automatic arms and manufactured in Smithfield NSW here are some links and a video of one of the few of them that made it into the states before the howard communism party came into play. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_Dynamics_Series_T2_MK5
    Polish Mosin Nagant M44 7.62x54r Radom 1952 manufacture
    Brno model 2 1974 manufacture

    One word 'Timshel'.

  • #2
    Still a cool bit of gear
    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing” - Edmund Burke

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    • Throwingbrick
      Throwingbrick commented
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      Originally posted by Morgo" post=33704
      Still a cool bit of gear
      at a second glance it almost looks like a ace52 galil a bit

  • #3
    Here's a link to IMFDB on the movies and TV shows the Leader Dynamics T2 MK5 have appeared in...

    http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/T2_MK5_assault_rifle

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    • #4
      Originally posted by Throwingbrick" post=33694
      also partly owned by Australian automatic arms and manufactured in Smithfield NSW here are some links and a video of one of the few of them that made it into the states before the howard communism party came into play. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_Dynamics_Series_T2_MK5
      Throwingbrick, that's not entirely correct. I'm a big fan of getting the facts right, and also a fan of the Leader and AAA and people are always mixing them up so......

      Leader Dynamics T2 MK5 ≠ Australian Automatic Arms (AAA). They're different companies, different owners, lots of differences between the rifles. Some of the early AAA guns used some Leader parts, but these were later redesigned.

      - Leader has an AR style flash hider with no slots, the AAA guns has an M16A1 style flash hider.
      - Leader had a slimmer profile barrel than the AAA guns.
      - The Leader had 6 groove 1-12 rifling, whilst the AAA had either 6 grove 1-7 or 1-9.
      - Front sight on the Leader was a simple screw in and out affair like an AK front sight. It had a Allen head set/grub screw and pressure pad to prevent it from moving. AAA guns (except for early ones) had an M16 style front sight post with a detent.
      - Both guns had a piston that feed a gas cylinder, this then drove a link rod, which then drove the operating rod. The link rod, and operating rods of both guns are very different.
      - The Leader and AAA retracting handles were different (some early AAA's used leader retracting handles). The AAA was wider allowing a better grasp. The Leader had a return spring, whilst the AAA did not. The AAA had a bolt hold open groove like on an MP5 except you pushed it down rather than up to lock the bolt open.
      - The Upper receivers were different. They had different trunnions, and the rivets retaining the trunnion on the leader were ground flush. The Leader had a carry handle/scope rail, whilst the AAA just had a just a scope rail.
      - The Leader and AAA lower receivers were different. (some early AAA's used Leader lowers). The AAA lower had a magazine stop and a feed block to allow the magazine to be inserted easier.
      - The Leader used a main pivot pin, and hammer and trigger pivot pins that were retained via E clips. (some early AAA's used these) The AAA used an E clip pin in the front, but the hammer and trigger pins were retained by the springs like an AR.
      - The Leader used a two piece dis-connector, whilst the AAA was a one piece.
      - The AAA selector looked like an AR selector (they are actually different), whilst the Leader did not (some early AAA's used these)
      - The AAA grip was in fact a Leader grip with the logo missing.
      - The AAA butt is a Leader but with the word "Leader" missing.
      - The Leader and AAA bolts are very different. The Leader was triangular, whilst the AAA was sort of "W" shaped.
      - Due to the shape differences the extractors were different.
      - The bolt carriers are different in shape.
      - The Leader has 4 recoil springs, 2 on each guide rod separated by a bushing. The AAA has two.
      - The cam pins are slightly different.
      - The Leaders firing pin is retained by a roll pin, The AAA one has a pin that can easily be pushed out with the nose of a cartridge.
      - The firing pin extensions are different with the AAA's having a round mushroom heads.

      For those interested, the Leader factory address was 48 Justin Street, Smithfield NSW 2164.

      The Leader Dynamics T2 MK5 had been out of production for 13 years before Howard came to power, and the Australian Government had nothing to do with stopping them from being imported into the US, that was the Bush (as in George Bush Senior) Assault Weapon bans of 1999. This law prevented the import of what were called Assault Weapons into the US. This law is currently circumvented by manufacturers by using enough US made parts for the weapons to not be considered imported. The Leaders that had been exported were all in the US at that time. The guns that were stopped were the Australian Automatic Arms SAR and SAP.

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      • #5
        I love that guys Youtube channel; I've seen almost all of his videos. The ones where he is shooting 2-gun matches with old historical rifles are really awesome.

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        • Throwingbrick
          Throwingbrick commented
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          Originally posted by Chang739" post=33994
          I love that guys Youtube channel; I've seen almost all of his videos. The ones where he is shooting 2-gun matches with old historical rifles are really awesome.
          Yeah mate to bad we can't keep very many fully functioning australian made semiautomatic and fully automatic firearms

      • #6
        Had a AAA SAR in the early 90's. Great "Fun Gun" but wouldn't have stood up to the rigours of service life as some suggested it should have succeeded the L1A1 as the ADF's next weapon at the time.

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        • Stevo007
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          it was trialled by the Australian Army along with M16A2 and Steyr etc

      • #7
        Rebel has one for sale atm, if i could afford the 5and a half grand i would buy it and ship it off to Aussie to hold onto until my cat d gets approved later int eh year

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