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    So I'm tossing around the idea of buying another .308. It's intended use is more for target shooting than anything else and I was hoping to be able to accurately shoot distances around the 500 to 600 metre range. Seeing as though my knowledge of longarms ain't that great I was hoping for some advice. I was looking at the LTR or would I be better off getting a cheaper remington rifle and then buying a new stock for it? Is the LTR stock a good stock or not? Lastly what sort of scope should I be looking at for this rig? I'll probably have around $2700 to spend until the minister for war and finance chucks a wobbly. I was sticking with Remington because that's what I know and use but I'm open to suggestions. Thanks...Ratchet.

  • #2
    For longer range paper punching IMHO the LTR is a poor choice.

    Try thinking about the Ruger 77 MkII Varmit Target (VT) for $1100, or a nicely setup Omark for about $700. Or look at a nicely setup secondhand rifle - there are plenty of good ones to choose from. Pretty much ANY aftermarket barrel will outshot any common factory barrel - including those alledged wonders made by Berretta's Northern Europe division.

    Put the best scope you can afford on the rifle and you will outshoot the Remington fanboy every single time. If you can't see it, you can't hit it.

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    • #3
      at the risk of sounding biased,
      a howa varmint or tikka varmint stainless barreled action, in a Bell & Carlson 'medalist' stock, will leave you with enough cash for good optics.
      It may not take you to the olympics, but it will perform damn well for the money.

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      • El-Skippo
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        ^^^ Also the .308 in 1 in 10 twist off the bat, for them long high BC pills if you choose to shoot them

        How's got my vote. Or a Savage.. But the OP wants to stock to the remmi ( can't help you there ) never owned a remmi.

    • #4
      in that case, you could copy what i'm currently doing.
      i'm getting a (when the damn PTA gets here) remington 700 police 308 with 26 inch barrel, and a resonable scope on top of that.
      or a remington 308 or 300wm in the 'milspec 5R' range might be ok also.
      father has a 5R milspec in 308,.........its very accurate also.
      if you want remingtons.
      refer to our remington thread for pics of some.

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      • #5
        What's the stock like with the 700 police. Is it something that needs to be swapped out to improve accuracy? Or is the extra coin better spent on optics?

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          Originally posted by Ratchet" post=46619
          What's the stock like with the 700 police. Is it something that needs to be swapped out to improve accuracy? Or is the extra coin better spent on optics?
          The 700p stock is pretty stable - it has a full length aluminium bedding block. All you really need to is give it a skim bed and you'll be good to go

      • #6
        At least if you buy a 5R Remington you are going to be getting a far better barrel than on a LTR (or other regular Remington).

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        • Walter White
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          Originally posted by adamjp" post=46623
          At least if you buy a 5R Remington you are going to be getting a far better barrel than on a LTR (or other regular Remington).
          They also have a slightly faster 1:11.25 twist in 308.
          Could you elaborate on your reasons for this comment adamjp. I've recently put a deposit on n a 5r and would be interested to hear your thoughts. Other than send its old man and the other poor guy on here who can't get his to hit the side of a barn I can't find much local experience with them.

      • #7
        The 5R barrels are a aftermarket supplied target quality barrel. Commonly supplied by Kreiger barrels.
        When I get my police model, I'll be running a comparison between it and the mil spec.The police is a 1:12 twist rate, while the 5R is a 1:11.2 twist rate.
        This effects how well a barrel can stabilise certain projectiles.

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          Originally posted by Send-it" post=46653
          The 5R barrels are a aftermarket supplied target quality barrel. Commonly supplied by Kreiger barrels.
          Just curious where you got that info from??
          From what I have read they are barrels that are made for the M24 but have minor faults & passed down the line.
          I'll try to find where I read that & post it for reference.

          Found it-
          http://www.snipercentral.com/milspec5r.phtml

          Another read-
          http://www.remingtonle.com/rifles/m24.htm
          Note the 5r barrel being used!

          I've always thought the 5r milspec would be a nice rifle & for what you get I think it comes at a pretty good price to, still under $1500!!

      • #8
        info from the Kreiger agent.
        the modern '5R' is a Kreiger product.
        hard to clarify the earlier ones though.
        but the milspec barrels are not a Remington product.
        this is all reliable (but second hand) info.
        as always.

        but,.......all the 5R means is;
        there are 5 lands of rifling, and that the lands are radiused a lot more spherical, compared to common rifling.
        hence the '5R'.
        nothing more nothing less. but these barrels are manufactured better than the average Remington barrel.
        note the radiused 5r edges, compared to the squarer edges.
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          Originally posted by Send-it" post=46677
          info from the Kreiger agent.
          the modern '5R' is a Kreiger product.

          hard to clarify the earlier ones though.
          but the milspec barrels are not a Remington product.

          this is all reliable (but second hand) info.
          as always.
          That wouldn't surprise me but I guess what I am say is that from what I read its a M24 barrel & I think the rifle should be a good LR rifle!
          But as usual you need to reload to tune it in to get the best out of it IMO.
          http://www.guns.com/review/2013/06/11/remington-700-mil-spec-5r/

      • #9
        The 5R barrels are not made by Remington, they are sourced from a company that specialises in making barrels.

        For what a 5R is going to cost you, there are a fair few rifles that would do what you need better. Think hard about the Ruger 77 VT, the Savage, the Omark or a Tikka - all have barrels better than the Remington product, superior triggers and better stocks. They cost less in this country because they are distributed by a different company - with lower on costs.

        Of course, if the style of the Remington is important, buy a Remington. It is your rifle.

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