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    So guys this Question was asked on the old on before it shut but i will ask it again

    I'm planning on doing a project Long range rifle it would be purely for range use and wouldn't be used for competitions atm but down the line maybe

    so what Cal , Action and Barrel should i build it around

    I want to try and keep it under $3-4K before glass

    I was leaning towards a .338 LM but the main problem with that is the price of ammo and if i let my mates shoot then recoil comes into it as well so now i'm not sure

    and yes it has to be a project build i don't want to just go buy a DTA off the shelf i want to work on this gun bit by bit

  • #2
    Barnard Model P action 7mm SAUM or 284 WIN
    Kreiger 30" Barrel, twist to suit projectile.

    I reckon you need to decide first on what competition you might want to compete in before you build a rifle. F-class open?

    Cheers.

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    • #3
      i don't want to compete i just want to shoot long range for now once i get it done i might like it and then start competeing or i might hate and then i will have a safe queen or a gun to sell

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      • #4
        What do you consider long range?

        338LM would be nice if you are smashing metal at 2000m.

        Seeing that the idea of competition is in the back of your mind , which would mean you are shooting out to 1000 odd yards the 338LM will be a massive over kill and not welcome in Fclass or BR ( I think with BR) as its over 8mm.

        Plus shooting without a brake will make the rifle not very fun to shoot,

        As for the rifle.... Sumo had it spot on IMO
        Any custom action, barrel and stock will work fine.
        Also consider that spending 4K on rifle dose not make you shoot any better,

        338LM cost of ammo? are you reloading?

        JH

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          Rat man407 commented
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          Originally posted by John23" post=8591
          What do you consider long range?

          338LM would be nice if you are smashing metal at 2000m.

          Seeing that the idea of competition is in the back of your mind , which would mean you are shooting out to 1000 odd yards the 338LM will be a massive over kill and not welcome in Fclass or BR ( I think with BR) as its over 8mm.

          Plus shooting without a brake will make the rifle not very fun to shoot,

          As for the rifle.... Sumo had it spot on IMO
          Any custom action, barrel and stock will work fine.
          Also consider that spending 4K on rifle dose not make you shoot any better,

          338LM cost of ammo? are you reloading?

          JH
          No i'm still not reloading yet but i'm planning on it got all my gear still sitting in the shop

          and yeah max range i would be shooting is 1km

          as for 4k rifle not making me a better shooter i know that

          Cheers James

      • #5
        ok, then if you want to build a new dedicated target rifle (to see if you like long range shooting) go a Barnard action in 308, and aim to compete in f-class standard at any NRAA range. This is a great basis to start long range target shooting. Resale of this rig is easy. My Barnard Action I bought new last month was $1800. 32" Border barrel was under $1000 fitted. Stocks are available from about $1000.

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        • #6
          1000m you dont need 338LM and you dont need to spend $3 every time you pull the trigger,

          308 win will do the job fine.

          Or if you want to get fancy,
          6.5x47
          260rem
          284win

          Reloading gear and a basic rifle ( omark, tikka, savage or what ever) is what you need.
          When you are winning comps and want to roll with the big dogs then go spend the 4 k

          Thats my 2 cents

          JH

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          • #7
            If 1K is max you don't need to go to .338 or more.
            300WM will bolt it in.. and then some.
            You can load it down too.. and .30 has a vast range of projectiles.

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            • #8
              i Think i might just get a remington 700 and just chance things out as i go still a toss up on the cal been serguest the .260 or the .308 will be the best for what i want

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                Savage LRP in 6.5 Creedmoor.

            • #9
              Hey mate its a shame your thread on the old forum went the way of the dodo. A lot of good info on the site
              was lost.
              As in my post on the old forum you don't have to spend a fortune to get a very accurate rifle.
              I believe the barrel and cartridge choice would play the biggest part in gaining accuracy.
              My rifle that I have only had a bit of play out to 400 shoots under half MOA consistently.
              It groups around .2-.5 at 100 just of a cheap bipod.
              The rifle cost me about $1500 scoped with all new components.
              I think the 260 would be the cartridge to choose as it has better ballistics than the 308 and
              in a varmint weight rifle it will have bugger all recoil.
              I can keep on target with my 6.5-284 which has a bit more kick than the 260. It weighs just over 12 pound though.
              Sensitivity to recoil would be factor in shooting accuracy also.
              If you are willing search around you should be able to find an action, barrel, stock, scope, etc, for well
              under your budget.
              If you want something that shoots great you can do it cheaply but if you want something that has the wow
              factor of aftermarket action and high dollar stock then it will cost you.

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              • #10
                Yeah .260 sounds good

                are there any dealers in aus that impornt rifle parts or should i just import it my self then run it thought my local dealer

                Would the group buy on Pac-Nor barrel be worth it


                6.5mm (.264") is the same thing as a .260?

                if there are what twist rate would be best and what about the number of groves?

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                  The other issue with the .338LM is finding a range that will let you shoot it.
                  Typically Full bore ranges are set on a NATO template that is pretty much limited to .30 cal or 8mm.

                  We have a guy shooting F open here using a custom 280AI Boy does that thing shoot!

                  I like the look of 7mm WSM too!
                  Much the same ballistics as a 7mm Rem Mag but in a short action.

                  Mick.

              • #11
                Sounds like you want a fun gun that you could use to shoot way out there if you wanted to. I don't think you need to go custom or spend that much money - especially since you're not reloading - means that you're not serious.

                I think you could do a lot worse than a tikka super varmint in 6.5x55.

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                • Rat man407
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                  Originally posted by Oziblue" post=9827
                  Sounds like you want a fun gun that you could use to shoot way out there if you wanted to. I don't think you need to go custom or spend that much money - especially since you're not reloading - means that you're not serious.

                  I think you could do a lot worse than a tikka super varmint in 6.5x55.
                  the main reason i want to go custom is the same reason i do a lot of things to say i have been there and tryed that and i liked it or i didn't
                  i have been looking and i think i can do it for closer to $1-2K that $4k was the top of my budget not nesacrelty what i was planning on spending on this rifle

                  as for not reloading i have all my gear on layby ready to pick up once i think i have enought cases atm i'm just building a stock pile of empty bass

                  and i'm not a tikka fanboy

              • #12
                6.5 x 47 gets my vote too. Easy on the shoulder, can be built with any .308 action ( I used an older Remington 700 action )

                great BC.

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                  Originally posted by lashman" post=9846
                  6.5 x 47 gets my vote too. Easy on the shoulder, can be built with any .308 action ( I used an older Remington 700 action )

                  great BC.
                  so to use a 6.5x47 in a .308 action all i have to do is change the barrel or would i have to change other things?
                  6.5x47 and .260 both fit the same barrel so does that mean i can run both bullets in the same gun without changing anything other then scope zero?

              • #13
                .308 can do 1000m but most loads you can make will go transonic before 1000m, which puts the projectile into the unknown zone where it may or may not stablise.

                If you want 1000m accuracy my advice is to look at a calibre that goes transonic at at least 1100m or 1200m.

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                  155 .30 cal Scenar at 3000ft/s will stay supersonic to 1k easily.

                  So will a 175gr SMK at 2650ft/s.

                  Both are achievable in a longer 26-30" barrel rifle.

              • #14
                I guess it does not really matter which calibre (within reason) you get for long range because if it takes your fancy and become addicted you will work your way up.
                That's the way I look at it now.

                I've got a few, but I'm always wondering if I should get a .375 CT, a 416 Barret, a 460 Steyr or a .50BMG. I admire artillery too.

                I'm just a hopeless gun junkie.

                There needs to be a Blues song for our game.

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                • #15
                  So i think i might have give up the idea of going a custom on this one maybe


                  I ringing around a few dealers tomorrow to see if i can find one that will be able to get me a savage LRP DBM in .260 then later down the road if i want to rebarrel it to 6.5x47 i will do it then but this is if i can find one and if i go those way i will more then likely got the XLR stock

                  if not i will go a custom job

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