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    Hi all was hoping to get a few recomendations for powder type to use, I have just got a new Sako 85 Hunter Lam in 300WM and am looking at running 180 grain pills, and I am yet to purchase the powder for this one.

    Also i have a Tikka T3 in 22-250 have been using AR2208 in it pushing 55Gr Pills is this a good choice? any recommendations?

    Both of these rifles are 100% hunting, however with the Tikka i have noticed the Groups when sighting in were pretty ordinary, still sub MOA but I get alot better results with my 308 running 2208, so I thought perhaps there might be a petter powder to use for my 250.

    Any advice would be aprriciated, still pretty new to the whole reloading side of things. Thanks

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    2208 is a good choice for the 22-250 with 55 grainers. 2206H and BM2 are other good choices.

    For the 300 Win Mag, Alliant's reloader 22 worked best with the 180 grainers. That powder gave us an extra 100 FPS+ over ADI's 2213SC or 2217 with superb accuracy.

    All of the above powders are good choices for the 300 Win mag.

    Better you than me doing that load development, good luck with it.

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    • #3
      AR2217 or AR2225 are your best local choices.

      AR2217 has a reputation for burning cool, this will improve barrel life somewhat if you are firing multiple shots in a hurry.

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        Thanks for the replies, I probably wont be heaps of shots in a hurry but I would like a cooler burner. Thanks for that.

    • #4
      My 2 mad mates run 2225 in there 300WM , both very accurate loads.

      FT

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        I am running 2225 for the 208 grn amax in my win mag full power rock and roll loads at 2995 fps . I ran 2213c with 180 SGK's

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      Originally posted by Viss3r" post=14851
      Hi all was hoping to get a few recomendations for powder type to use, I have just got a new Sako 85 Hunter Lam in 300WM and am looking at running 180 grain pills, and I am yet to purchase the powder for this one.

      Also i have a Tikka T3 in 22-250 have been using AR2208 in it pushing 55Gr Pills is this a good choice? any recommendations?
      Try 2206H and BM2 in your .22-250 if you want but extra performance may be found by adjusting seating depth, what 55gr pills are you using? 2208 is generally the go to powder with the 250, the only other powder I use is BM2 with 50gr Sierra MK's. For 55gr pills I would stick to 2208 myself. How much 2208 are you using? The .22-250 for some reason seems to be a real fan of fire formed cases, with an accuracy improvement of 1/3MOA not uncommon between virgin and once fired, Neck Sized only brass.

      300WM: For 180's I have found 2225 is too slow, try 72.0grs of 2213SC with the rounds loaded to maximum magazine length assuming this is NOT jamming them in the Lands, post a picture of how it groups with this load...chances are it's a winner (if not just up the powder half a grain or so watching for pressure). What brand and type of 180's are you looking to run? 2217 is a good powder for the 180-210gr range of projectiles in the 300WM but 2213SC seems to get better fps consistency in the 190 grains and less range of projectiles over all other powders I have tried, this is excluding the almighty VV N165, which I have only tried once but results look promising.

      What press and what dies do you have for your 300WM?

      Regarding reloader 22, it is slightly slower than 2213SC and almost equivalent to VV N165, I tried a number of combinations with R22 but found it lacking in my rifle. However it has consistently demonstrated superior performance in a number of 300WM's to 2213SC, unfortunately (in the 3 cases I have seen ) once you get your hands on a batch of N165, R22 falls by the wayside.

      When I am developing a load I place importance on velocity consistency when selecting powder, tuning a load for accuracy can be done in other ways. Great choice in rifle by the way, Be careful the 300WM is addictive... Bang.... THUD....Flop

      My best results are using:
      150-190gr : 2213SC
      168-190gr: V V N165
      180 - 210gr : 2217
      210 - 250gr : 2225

      In my Case I have skipped 2217 in favour of 2213SC for 168's, N165 for 180's and 190's, 2225 for 210's and I am still waiting on some damn norma brass for my 230 bergers but I will almost certainly be using 2225 for these.

      Cheers,
      Andy

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        Using Hornady V max in the 250, and would probably go the same in the 300, unless advised otherwise.

        I am at work but I'm pretty sure its a lyman press, one where you can have multiple dies in it at once, I specifically said I would be reloading 300wm when I bought it and was told this press was suitable.

    • #6
      Mate this is the load I use in my Sako 300WM. 185gr Bergers, Norma brass filled with 75gr 2213SC, Federal match magnum primers. It goes without saying whatever load you should start low and work your way up.

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        Hi Guys
        I have only ever used 2 brands of powder, being ADI and VihtaVuori . .
        types=ADI AR2206H , AR2205, AR2208 and AR2209. VV N150, N160 ,N550 and N560
        Both have great results in my rifles , but VV burns cleaner in the barrel making less work to clean But after my supply I got from DWCuster ($66 kg) runs out.
        I will being the very high prices that gun shops have to sell for to make a profit. And at prices from $110 to $145 kg , I may stick to the cheaper opinion in ADI .
        But sometimes you have to pay big $$$$ for the good stuff and VihtaVuori is the best " I think"
        Cheers
        Mack , Aka teekay0
        Marlin 1894 .44rem mag
        Tikka T3 Super Varmint .260rem
        Savage Axis XP Camo .260rem
        Ruger American .22wmr
        BSA SuperSport XL .22
        Adler A110 Synthetic 20" 12ga
        Boito Miura U/O 12ga

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          Well I ended up settling on AR2225, mainly because it was all they had available at the moment, so I didn't really have much of a choice. Not to mention my problems getting brass...

          But thanks heaps for all the replies.
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